Really impressed with how fast adoption is moving.
Gitter and Teamspeak are native Matrix clients; Thunderbird has Matrix support in its' nightly builds, and now Firefox 90 will have native Matrix support!

@asbjorn
They just ship with support for the URI scheme, right?

I'm hoping XMPP will get the upper hand at some point, with more clients supporting OMEMO and Jingle A/V chat, but wherever we end up I'll be that guy from the xkcd comic strip using IRC forever ;)
@asbjorn
It's a well established federated standard that has been around forever.

I'm curious the other way around; why Matrix?

@smpl I like that Matrix replicates whole rooms instead of just passing messages. This helps when when joining a conversation late, or in a split network scenario, or after downtime.
HTTP/JSON is stupid simple, and means that I can write clients that run entirely in a browser. (Cactus would be very different on XMPP)
E2EE is default in DMs, and the key verification method is so smooth.
The spec is much more well-defined and less cherry-picky than XMPP.

@smpl but also I like the spirit of the community, element and matrix.org in general.
Element feels like a "richer" client, like more of a discord replacement than an IRC replacement.
I think the focus on interop is really important, I use bridges to matrix extensively.
Element has done a lot of good for matrix adoption: Mozilla, KDE, GNOME, Der Bundeswehr, the French gov 't among others have all adopted Matrix, finally replacing IRC.

@smpl Luckily IRC, XMPP and Matrix all interoperate really well, so we don't all have to choose the same one 🤠

@asbjorn
Yes, I don't know how prevalent it is now a days, but back when I first used XMPP most servers had built in bridges to MSN, ICQ, Yahoo etc.

I thought that Matrix had some kind of fluid standard defined by the main implementation, but if it has a defined standard that's cool.

@smpl oh no it's very well-defined! There's a super transparent spec change process and everything too!

matrix.org/docs/spec/
(or for the upcoming, new spec platform: spec.matrix.org)

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